{"id":596,"date":"2016-06-27T20:21:28","date_gmt":"2016-06-28T03:21:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.depthinsights.com\/blog\/?p=596"},"modified":"2025-05-07T18:02:33","modified_gmt":"2025-05-08T01:02:33","slug":"the-genius-myth-an-interview-with-storyteller-and-author-michael-meade","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.depthinsights.com\/blog\/the-genius-myth-an-interview-with-storyteller-and-author-michael-meade\/","title":{"rendered":"The Genius Myth: An Interview with Storyteller and Author, Michael Meade"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"596\" class=\"elementor elementor-596\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2f8efc1a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"2f8efc1a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-64662d63 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"64662d63\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>When Michael Meade was thirteen, his aunt, seemingly by accident, bought him a book of mythology for his birthday. Though he felt profoundly aligned with the book and stayed up all night reading it, it would take another 20 years before it became evident it was his path in life, guiding him to his current calling as a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar in mythology and depth psychology.<\/p><p>\u201cThe soul\u2019s way of being is unique to each person,\u201d Meade wrote in his acclaimed book,\u00a0<em>Why The World Doesn\u2019t End<\/em>. \u201cIt was seeded and sown within each of us from the beginning and it tries to ripen throughout our lives. What exiles us more than anything is the separation from our own instinctive, intuitive way of being. We are most lost and truly in exi<br \/>le when we have lost touch with our own soul, with our unique inward style and way of being in this world.\u201d<\/p><p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-597 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.depthinsights.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Child-door-lantern-genius-72772975.jpg\" alt=\"Child Walking In Woods To Glowing Red Door\" width=\"900\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.depthinsights.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Child-door-lantern-genius-72772975.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.depthinsights.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Child-door-lantern-genius-72772975-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.depthinsights.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Child-door-lantern-genius-72772975-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/>In\u00a0a recent interview, Meade shared insights with me into his own mythological and depth psychological view of how\u2014though we\u2019re living in a radical time when it seems like the world is falling apart; when \u201cnature is rattling and culture seems to be unraveling\u201d\u2014being in touch with one\u2019s innate genius is \u201can unerring guide to what a person\u2019s life is supposed to be about.\u201d<\/p><p>Meade\u2019s latest book,\u00a0<em>The Genius Myth<\/em>, focuses on how a person navigates a period of such turmoil and uncertainty. Meade\u2019s use of the word \u201cgenius\u201d is based on the old sense, he notes, referring to the unique spirit that is in each person\u2019s soul, a concept often obscured in the modern world.\u00a0<\/p><p>One example of how the individual soul is oppressed is in that of transgendered individuals, Meade points out, especially children for whom the issue is active in them for some mysterious reason. The notion of the individuality of each soul makes it more feasible to respect the differences we all live in spite of appearances or backgrounds. One\u2019s \u201ccomplex\u201d of abilities and gifts is what makes each individual unique and valuable. In a collective society, the uniqueness of life is often overlooked, yet this is the very thing that often provides meaning and purpose in an individual life.<\/p><p>In the face of what Meade terms, the apparent \u201cunraveling of the world,\u201d I wonder how each of us might tap into the genius within. It is important to distinguish the genius myth from the hero\u2019s journey\u2014introduced into the mainstream by the legendary Joseph Campbell, Meade responds. This is what Meade does in his new book,\u00a0<em>The Genius Myth<\/em>.<\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KFTbZ3Yfqm0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Click Here to listen to the full Interview with Michael Meade<\/strong><\/a><\/p><p>Meade describes the hero as a person making \u201cdramatic moves in the outer world,\u201d emphasizing that in the hero\u2019s journey, the accomplishments are in the outer world. Further, the hero is associated with a masculine way of being from a depth psychological sense, as the \u201chero\u201d is linked to power and strength.\u00a0<em>The Genius Myth<\/em>\u00a0argues that the genius was already there before we were born, and is not only something we bring to the world, but even something that brings\u00a0<em>us<\/em>\u00a0to the world. It is about discovering the genius within.<\/p><p>Meade, who works extensively with youth suicide situations, has found that many youths who committed suicide in the United States feel empty inside. The culture contributes to this feeling, imposing the belief that one must \u201cmake something of themselves.\u201d Meade\u2019s stance is that each of us already\u00a0<em>is<\/em>\u00a0something. We have to make ourselves aware of who we are.<\/p><p>Given the dramatic changes going on in the world\u2014and the rapidity of that change\u2014along with \u201cthe rattling and even hollowing out of institutions,\u201d there\u2019s not much in the outside world a person can depend upon for orientation and coherence, Meade declares. We must look inside to find the orientation of our lives and ways to cohere. One idea is that of an inborn genius that encompasses not only the gifts and abilities of a person, but also our purpose and destiny.<\/p><p>Meade refers to the need for \u201cvertical imagination.\u201d In mythology, he notes, there\u2019s an old idea that there\u2019s always two stories going on: one is the ongoing story of the world, and the other is the story of the individual soul in the world. The soul involves the depth of a person, and in depth, a person is naturally connected to nature and the world around them.\u00a0<\/p><p>Our world has become rather flat, Meade suggests: Everybody is connected all the time, but it\u2019s a horizontal connection. The connections don\u2019t go deep enough to contain the growth of soul that is needed for either the individual or world, and we can see that in the consequences of that in increasing polarization and division, exemplified very tragically in the aftermath of the recent mass shooting in Orlando, Florida, as well as in other current events.<\/p><p>People get back into an imaginative creative connection to the world through vertical imagination. Our connection goes deep into the soul on one end, where it connects not only to deep emotions but also the depth of feeling for being\u2014for being present in the world and being connected to the world in depth, Meade believes.\u00a0<\/p><p>The other connection goes upward where one is connected to the great \u201chigh ideas\u201d and the great imagination where people used to consider themselves connected to the stars. The human was originally intended to be the channel between the stars of the sky and the core of the earth, he insists. Each human is in that connection if they awaken to it.<\/p><p>The problems we are experiencing, whether in nature or culture, will not be solved without a vertical imagination. Healing needs to happen in our culture\u2014not only in connection with genders\u2014 but also between races, in the political arena, and in ecosystems, waterways, and forests, among other things. According to Meade, we are living in a time when everyone\u2019s genius nature is being called upon; perhaps there is even an acceleration of calling and vocation as \u201cboth nature and culture need an awakening of the genius in as many people as possible.\u201d<\/p><p>Michael goes on to offer two ways to access our inner genius, not the least of which is to glean what we can from traumatic circumstances or rejection by one\u2019s family or community, both instances where the genius is often awakened most strongly. Jung wrote that genius hides behind the wound, so whenever we harbor a wound, we may believe that our genius was an integral part of our survival. \u201cSomething deep in the human soul awakens when things fall apart,\u201d Michael penned in\u00a0<em>Why the World Doesn\u2019t End<\/em>.<\/p><p>Meade closes with some thoughts on what he views as the two layers of hope: One is the sort of na\u00efve hope that has to ultimately be deconstructed, and there is also despair, meaning \u201cto be without hope.\u201d It\u2019s generally essential that we, at times, fall into despair because at the root of despair is another level\u2014a second layer\u2014of hope.\u00a0<\/p><p>That layer, in depth psychology, might be called imagination\u2014imagination being the deepest power of the human soul. \u201cWhen we think that all is lost, we are actually falling closer to the deepest ground of soul, which, you could say, has the power of imagination,\u201d he insists. \u201cImagination is what we need in order to begin to reimagine and recreate the world.\u201d<\/p><p>Meade recounts an Irish myth that teaches us that when the center can no longer hold\u2014as currently appears to be the case in a current political, economic, and ecological sense\u2014we must go to the margins and find the thread that intrigues us there. Then, upon pulling those threads of genius, the center is remade. \u201cA person doesn\u2019t need to be heroic,\u201d Meade insists.\u00a0<\/p><p>\u201cA person just has pull the the threads of their own life as close to the center as possible and they are contributing to the renewal of the world. If enough people were pulling the threads, we would be participating in the re-weaving of the world.\u201d Further, if this re-weaving strikes a chord with you, it\u2019s probably not a coincidence. \u201cThere is an old deep sense that we are being called on\u2014we have always been called on\u2014to be our own selves. That\u2019s the real job of a person.\u201d<\/p><p>Jung called this process \u201cindividuation,\u201d Meade affirms. Individuation is not only the natural calling for the\u00a0<em>individual<\/em>, but the\u00a0<em>world itself<\/em>\u00a0is calling on people to come to consciousness and individuate on an individual level. Once enough of us are doing that, the imagination of assisting the world to renew itself becomes possible.<\/p><p>Michael Meade is presenting a weekend workshop, \u201c<strong>The World is Churning:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>The Myth of Genius, The Genius of Myth, July 8-10, 2016, at Pacifica Graduate Institute.<\/strong>\u00a0\u201cPacifica is one of the few homes in the entire culture for depth psychology and mythology,\u201d Meade notes.\u00a0<\/p><p>\u201cIt\u2019s one of the very few places where those two essential studies are being honored.\u201d At the workshop, Meade plans to discuss creativity, imagination, and the genius in the soul in order to discover how to encourage this in ourselves so we can do meaningful work in the world. \u201cPacifica is the right place to do that,\u201d Meade proclaims.<\/p><p><strong>Michael Meade, D.H.L.,<\/strong>\u00a0is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. His hypnotic and fiery storytelling, street savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths are highly relevant to current culture. He is the author of many books including\u00a0<em>Fate and Destiny: The Two Agreements of the Soul<\/em>and\u00a0<em>The World Behind the World<\/em>. Meade is founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a Seattle-based nonprofit dedicated to education and cultural healing. For more information, visit\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mosaicvoices.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">www.mosaicvoices.org<\/a><\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KFTbZ3Yfqm0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Click Here to listen to the full Interview with Michael Meade<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When Michael Meade was thirteen, his aunt, seemingly by accident, bought him a book of mythology for his birthday. 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